We will brag about cutting lines while others waited hours. It is rather a major deficit in our socialization process. . Xavier: So food, lets talk food. You can never go clockwise when youre saying hello to people. Because matrilineally, our kids belong to my family and not my husbands family. Ruth: I mean, its generally younger people who do it. Next gen *barries* and all(combo baby). So, tradition here reveres time. That is like the biggest sin in Ghana. Xavier: You need to visit. So, you know, I dont know what my experience would have been like as an outright expat, I dont know. Not Jamaican, but as a foreigner, I do not think this is true. It's just cultural . I think we are more blunt and direct so it maybe a been off putting. So, thats a very hard thing for foreigners to get used to it. WebHaitians and Jamaicans, just like many other immigrants groups in the U.S, have tension because they see each other as competition. To be clear, I was not looking for it. And Kelewele, which is fried ripe, and Im going to say it, plantain. There, its very hierarchical. But if your parents always told you that you have to chew your food and that you must swallow chewing gum, its a very hard concept to get with. Ruth: Apart from patties? Mean? Ruth: Part two, yes. You pick at it, you put it in your mouth and you dont chew it. Jamaicans are from the most aggressive tribes in west Africa, ( youruba, ashanti, fanti, etc. ) But no. This jamaican bank lady. Too well,in fact,if you know what I mean. So, things are still assigned to gender in a way that we no longer assign them to in Jamaica. Your religion, your language all of that can go. You may not have many. And just seeing people stand up with their hands a kimbo, it just felt familiar. Your experiences are yours and your observations are your own. Check out Sheris Blog HERE and Like the Naked Departure Facebook Page HERE, Remember to share this article on Facebook and other Social Media Platforms. That makes zero sense to me and Im not waving back., Overseas people tend to be more euphemistic when expressing their frustration. So, I think when youre surrounded by all of that, it makes you feel okay about being overseas. Thank you for the opportunity. they would understand why we feel less inclined to meet their own cultural standards. Maam. I tore up like a baby. Also, what many outsiders view as us fussing is us having a good time. They may even argue to the death that it wasnt or just let what you say pass by with blissful ignorance as they reassure themselves. Funny to see the comment above from Marty and what came across as defensive reply from the author. They were the men and women who could not be broken. Our hearts smile, Baraka Flaka Flaaaame (@blackinnaminute) March 7, 2020. Sometimes English just wont do and Ghanaians like to invent their own, more practical words and phrases. Mi nuh (I dont) get there yet. So my tendency if someone was yelling at me would be to yell back why are you such an a88hole today?!! I wouldn't say we are mean, per say We're just short-tempered and aggressive. It was too short of a time. The heavy tradition means also that gender roles are more traditional than Jamaican gender roles. As you clearly have nothing meaningful to say, you have been blocked from further correspondence. Still, there is another side of Jamaicans. Thats all. Just so you know, so they eat Ackee here. That lady didnt come to find answers. I can tell you this, you know, I kept saying, oh, Jamaican just saying that because its been ingrained in us to say, we come from there. I don't think we're mean, but we're very direct for sure. While we do have some exceptions, most of us are the most genuine people you could ever hope to meet. But it is this way. All the best. In most countries gecko lizards are viewed as harmless creatures that do not attack and in some cases kept as pets. . I think its, kind of beautiful to see that, and you take it for granted when youre here. Again ot all are like this of course, but its a trend. Okay. Brief excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given to Alexis Chateau with appropriate and specific direction to the original content. Rhaatid! Xavier: Theres nothing else. You have to be mean to make them know you not too too nice so they won't tek liberty. This also exists in parts of Africa as well. They will defend. I stood and see more than one person get bloodied for some simple thing. Kirk Campbell, I didnt say s law , dummy. But the way we flavor it with salt fish is a way they flavor the majority of Ghanaian dishes are flavored with some form of smoked fish that is cut up just the same way wed cut up salt fish. Much of the hype of hatred of any form is Ruth: In Jamaica the biggest sin is what? 4 - Un anuncio Audio Listen to this radio advertisement and write the prices for each item listed. Ruth: But theres the spirit that says, Its okay not to say, all right now, we can say that later. So, even if youre six months older than me, you get my respect. However, your observation of how that pride plays out is shallow and inaccurate. Tell us by leaving a comment below. Likewhat?? You stand tall in rooms filled with short people. The first time I came was in 90, I want to say 91. So come connect with one of the Jamaicans here and have them sort of introduce Ghana to yuh (you). You know, and that traditions have been carried out since then. What I always tell people, we are NOT mean. Too bad for them that I can compare an attitude/image to 100 different (awful) things, Ambrosia Blue Lagoon Budget (@ambrosia_omG) March 7, 2020, Not mean, we're just an extremely direct culture. Chances are, you assumed they were arguing. Yogen No Ko (@styrofoambax) March 8, 2020. Ruth: Well, I think its a familiarity of it. U hate jamicans.ok. Why u hate them,talk make we hear you?. I keep telling you, Matt. Yes. I strongly believe there are 3 sides to every story. Xavier: Well listen, Ruth, I appreciate you taking time out of your busy day to tell us about Ghana. The gecko known as the croaking lizard (they make croaking sounds) in Jamaica is the most feared lizard. Xavier: Winding down and heres one of the questions. Im not sure if that says more about their own personality types than our culture, but we sure welcomed them when they came running to our defence! So, Ghanaians are very conservative with showing their bodies. They eat boiled green plantains here. Xavier: So, are you saying theyre a little like us. Why is that? Reprisal killings make up a significant portion of our murder rate in Jamaica. So, I always get people wanting to make that connection. But Ghana feels like home in a different way. In the good and bad sense. Come this scammer, stop stalking me, am here to expose you, can u imagine a ghanian telling a friend of mine from sweeden how dangerous anyone from nigeria could be? America and Canada are a different story. WebTHE TRUTH IS, we were taught to hate JAMAICANS. Thank you for taking the time to read and comment. Because if youre from a matrilineal system, then the children belong to the mother. FyffeStar (@FyffeJireh) March 7, 2020. I appreciate knowing how to not offend and not be offended. They arent necessarily bad thats to each owns interpretation but to me I see a lot of this materialism in Jamaicans. So you have quite an experience then with, way down South and back up North? Xavier: Good. Web13 September 2020. We will find that. We own it. Being prim and proper has its time and place, but applied to us outside of a formal setting, it often stinks of Eurocentric ideals. If youve never seen jokes about this in pop culture before, Ill start you off with this video. I guess I can see how people with less sense could simplify it to that. Clothes, looks, being right, what they have or can do with a lack of intrinsic worth and emotional understanding. As one tweep explained, we have a short temper and an even shorter supply of patience. Theres a big detachment there. You know, when you hear about a country, thats steeped in tradition, until you live that tradition, you dont really know what thats steeped in tradition means. It sits in a soup, in a very spicy soup. We are very loving though. Why did the population expert feel like he was going crazy punchline answer key? I know some very nice jamaicans but if you date a jamaican man especially who grew up poor and had to be even harder. Jamaica is the opposite. Yuh si dem (You see them) picking from a tree and just eat it. Final question. i have a lot of Jamaicans friends and i give all the respect drew to them god bless all my springfield Jamaican. Blunt. And you are exactly right, I learned in history the exact thing, even to this day the American government still have a policy to not let in too much jamaicans in the U.S. THE TRUTH IS this is why you are disliked, hated even, by other islanders, your other side of the family. So I dont know. Kirk Campbell, i dont know if youre a jamaican but Im one, and we are a very aggressive people, yes, aggressive. WebThe ethnogenesis of the Black Jamaican people stemmed from the Atlantic slave trade of the 16th century, when enslaved Africans were transported as slaves to Jamaica and Getty Images. What do you like most about Ghana? But, I can definitely see how the French can be more passionate then the northerners are used to. So, you can decide, which is the right pronunciation, but its more people calling it, plantain and plantain. And why they doing this and? We dont get it. We ate, you know, we went up, they had these trees that you that-. (@jhrissland) March 7, 2020. Jamaican men can try to boss Jamaican women around all they like, but unlike America, we have a predominantly Black Matriarchal culture. Ruth: But yes. Chances are, I don't like you either. And we appreciate you spending the time. Pure rubbish!!!! What I DID LEARN was that slaves were shipped from island to island as trade between slave owners. And I think youve covered it all. Total BS headline. We want to hear from you! The people who do eat it, eat it like a fruit. This is indeed an example of a misunderstanding based on cultural differences, and of course the woman on the phone was not being a monster. The Ghanians and Nigerians here in T.O. get along very well. So when you go abroad and even when, you know, I travel abroad you get this, whats your funniest moment when someone discovered, you know, a Ghanaian discovered that you were Jamaican. Xavier: So my next question to you is, so what do you like? So one of the beautiful things about Ghana is that, they revere their elders. Xavier: Well, heres my next question. (which part of Jamaica are you from), Ruth: A come from Kingston, near Barbican, close enough to Andrews and close enough to you guys down at JC. So, whats the main takeaway here? I know thats bizarre for Americans and most other nationalities because America is a White Patriarchy. You have to greet them in a counterclockwise direction. Its time for you to come back, but in the meantime, hope springs eternal. I think a lot of people hear things said in Patois, or even just our accent when we speak English, and interpret the things we say a lot more aggressively than we might intend, but we're not mean at all. Be careful. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Xavier: All right. We really do. If you look awful in that dress, we will tell you so and hurt your feelings. Now, Jamaica tek (take) dancing to another level, youre saying that, not even close? Lets say youre walking through Spain and you seeing these historic buildings. The other one that I used to get quite often and it would make me laugh. Germany, consistent with the logic of echo chambers. Its wasnt necessarily Bob Marley. Between 1845 and 1917, more than 36,000 Indians came from British India to British Jamaica because of the deteriorating socio-economic conditions in India at the time. Its like, you know, theres this Jamaican guy here, Audley Morris. Call them what you might, but they were not getting on their knees! Jamaicans believe these lizards will stick to your skin leaving a pattern once they are pulled off. I guess home is where the family is too. You know, Jamaican would say, A lie yu a tell man, a lie. (you are telling a lie), No. They believe that if youre maintaining peace, its okay to delay the truth or to color the truth. Theres a lot of reverence for the passing of time. Maybe a little bit more, I dont know, but it wasnt too far. They will cut out people because they get so hurt. The language has a distinctive rhythmic and melodic quality. There are no hurt feelings, but if you dont know our culture you would assume otherwise. Ghanaians I know do not speak negatively about Nigerians in fact they are peaceful and they are more focused on providing and protecting their families than worrying about what Nigerians are doing. Ruth: Okay. If you think a Jamaican is being mean thats probably because we thought the same of you and decided to show you whatmean really is. Yes, there is nothing like patties here. In our Jamaicans to the World series, Jamaicans.com founder Xavier Murphy speaks with Ruth Kwakwa, a Jamaican living in Ghana. The sense of humor is different, but its still very I think whats common to both countries, is that sense of humanity, where people are a bit more forgiving of each other and, yes, warmer and fuzzier. But I would always get, You dont look Jamaican, because they assume that everybodys darker-skinned. I never thought Jamaicans were mean! So if youre standing in a supermarket line, you can crack a joke and make reference to the child of the person in front of you. I for one have loads of Nigerian friends.. Dear Veronica, I dont know which part of Barbados you live but I am yet to encounter a Barbadian who hates Jamaicans as your article seems to suggest. Jamaican culture has something called gimmicks where literally all we do is make fun of each other. Utter rubbish! Thank God for the internet. Articles written from a Jamaican Perspective. But to others, it isn't. democracies can be very persuasive. Aggresive. You do not put everything out there and you do not speak your mind, just like that. They say the British hate hearing butchered American English. It comes out in society through materialism and other behaviours and characteristics. Keep your fake smiles. Some of the stuff youre saying, youre not getting a lot of the stereotypical, Id say. You know, I think at some point we will were going to dig deep enough to find it. . Xavier: Wow. And here in Ghana, its like everything is linked to some tradition. Maybe you knew a lot of poor Jamaicans and poor people have similar problems anywhere. Its a snack that you eat on the road, but first-timers love it. Xavier: Well, thats very interesting because youre seeing some of the similarities. Which is a rice in a tomato base and it has meat and whatever, but its just very flavorful. These are part of ADOS ideology, which we have also overwhelmingly encountered online. All rights reserved. You can find, Lets think. But even if you go into a church, just dancing and celebration of life, you know, kind of let everything that has breath, praise the Lord. Ghanaians believe in peace, at all costs. MOST racist people do not know that they are racists but simply just think and find a reason to dislike. Its beautiful to watch in motion, but social media has messed with it. But its very starchy and it just sits in the middle of your soup, and you eat with your hand, and youre not allowed to chew it. Ruth: Yu (you) cannot be a hypocrite, right? But there's plenty of "traditionally" nice Jamaicans though lol, Ni-Ko-lis We-li-yams, MBA (@InTheNickATime) March 8, 2020. We Jamaicans are, for the most part, open and accepting people. They just dont understand why the truth seems a bit delayed or seems a bit colored. For one, they are both extremely proud and passionate peoples, which can sometimes lead to conflict. We know how to party until the sun comes up and can just as easily relax at home and sleep through the Sunday rainfall. Why Do Jamaicans And Ibibio Men Hate Tall Girls / Why Are Ghanaians So Mean? As for the hurt when criticized, this one had me laughing. THE TRUTH IS this is why you are disliked, hated even, by other islanders, your other side of the family. Not having enough gravy on food is an insult to a Jamaican. THE TRUTH IS, we were taught to hate JAMAICANS. Who cares? Dressing to the nines. It was the African Americans. Back to Vegas: Im Driving Across the Country in the Middle of a Pandemic. And you see it clashing quite a bit. So, if it means that you have to hide the truth to maintain peace or to not ruffle feelings, then people will hide the truth and they dont consider it lying. But Really Though? So they struggle to wrap their brains around that, unless theyve traveled. 4. Maybe you should, but half the time were just playing around. Furthermore, our society and culture is inherently aggressive. It was very enlightening. I currently live in Mexico and the Mexicans I know have also made a keen observation and distinction between African Americans and the West Indians they know, myself included. So, Ive lived overseas off and on quite a bit. Ruth: Wheel and come again. But as we all know it is not applicable to every Ghanaian. If we hurt your feelings yesterday, were sorry, but thicken up that skin because Lord knows we might do it again tomorrow! Ill introduce it to other Jamaicans and well have a blast just moving around. A few people eat Ackee, not many people know it, but it grows all over the place. Listen a lot and talk less. The sad part about this history is that Jamaicans came to believe the propaganda. Im In Double Trouble With My Love Interests, Winning Return To The Ring For Jamaicas Axeman, Unconscionable for Taxpayers to Fund Politics, Frontier Airlines Launches More Flights to Montego Bay, Jamaica, Jamaica Removes Visa-Free Transit Privilege For Cuban Nationals. Send the mad and aggressive slaves to Jamaica. WebHowever, we do know that hate speech on social media in modern. That my passport is expired. See, I too came here trying to understand why some woman with a Jamaican accent on the phone made me want to beat her senseless! Saving water and electricity is an art practiced by many Jamaicans daily. The other thing I like about Ghana is, well, theres so many things. We are blunt and joke a lot. , They're gonna get you for this. WebJamaican English, including Jamaican Standard English, is a variety of English native to Jamaica and is the official language of the country. So it boils down to racism or the belief Look like a police or look like a criminal. Ruth: Yes. Jamaicans are notorious for finding ways to get to the front of long lines. Thinking about it the only reason that would be accurate is where we are tired of our culture being exploited otherwise we're laughing or stating facts. Jamaicans hate utility bills especially for water and light (electricity). Whatsapp. Their dislike for Nigerians did not start todayy. And I think you kind of got into that. WebJamaicans do not take kindly to insults. Who has the Best Patties in Jamaica? And I think that thats what really felt good. I miss the beach and it sounds weird because were on a coast here, but our beaches are different and there isnt a beach culture here. Ruth: I tell this to, African-Americans as well, because we come with the same quest for Ghana. So thats why Im hesitant to use the word lie. But theyre Ghanaian kids with international attachments. Xavier: I can tell you this, when I was planning the trip there and for years, I keep hearing everybody seh (say), you know, Ghana feels like home. I wont. Why didnt they bow down and be normal? We came and the same ship. Yeah. Here are the 9 Reasons Why You Should be Eating More How Jamaican Men Say Thank You to another Jamaican How Jamaicans Greet You When They Have Not Seen You 20 English Words That Sound Better In Jamaican Patois. I just wanted the chance to get back at her. Ghana is not going to be delivered to you on a plate like that. Copyright Simbis Inc.All rights reserved. If youre LGBTQ then there is documented truth to Jamaican being hostile. The majority of Jamaicans arent. Xavier: -its emotional. Spending everything on the BMW. Yes. I didnt have to spend years there to see that one. Honestly it's the oolder Ghanaian population who are always judging .. And they usually form opinions just by looking at the "419"guys in Ghana but the younger generation like them and are okay with them.. Your ancestors must be bowing their heads in shame. We are forward and direct. Even though I dont speak the local languages, the rhythm of the local languages resonates with me and I cant explain it. WebBecause of so many hatings going on online from Ghanians towards Nigerians, when ever it comes to me or any of my friends wanting to employ african apart from Nigerians, for They might tell someone their question is dumb but go on to ask an even dumber question but dont dare try to tell them theirs was dumb. Babylon give you a toy.in your mind you turn cowboy. that the other party is racist, and perhaps cultural Dance through down. Yes. Its not that obvious, but if you keep quiet, you can hear what Ghana is and hear what it represents. The same is true of the Jamaican accent. Thank you very much. Xavier: And you may not have many of them. We're not mean, they're just soft. brap!. Theres something very impressive about seeing history or seeing things that represent centuries around you, and in Ghana you see that in people. It is an offense that can start an angry mob. It calls on your senses much more than many other countries. Straight forward. Thank you for your support. Thanks for commenting. Britt The Beauty (@Britt__Da__Shit) March 8, 2020. Men being very bossy to women, using them, cheating. Don't let the frown scare you. Im looking forward to, as you said, to wheel and come again.. What was it, what did they say? Its important to note, however, that Jamaicans are predominantly bilingual and also speak Jamaican Patois (also known as Jamaican Patwa or Creole), which is a combination of English and some African languages. Xavier: I can tell you this, Ghana is at the top of my list, and I will be back. I can see why the Jamaicans youve met have not liked you. You need to wait a certain amount of time. . Then as time passed and you start to see clearer, meet people and question things, you soon realize that the insurgent slaves were the brave ones. Number one place that you must visit? It also comes down to where you went to school, where you work, who you know, what you drive, where you live, how often you travel, the first impression you give off, how you carry yourself, etc. As I tell everybody, youre free to crack jokes with the people around you in both of these countries. Su (so), my next question to you is this one, how did you end up in Ghana? Whats the thing you like the least? They can be very mean. If she don't move herself .. , I'm DYING because I'm reading this while you have your name set to "Passive Aggressive"!!! So Ruth, how are you? But even through the yelling, chances are well reach an understanding. I didnt say jamaicans invented rudeness either. Canadians are not as bossy and the Commonwealth ties sometimes makes it easier for us to catch the dry humour. Our results confirm the suspicion that Xavier: Because maybe now that explains the other side of, the DNA results that I got, which says Ben in Ghana and Nigeria. Yes. Ruth: Yes. I have two Jamaicans in my house and I love them to death. But yes, theres a good and bad side to everything. So, you lived in South Africa for a time also? Jamaicans are moreto the point. Rain is like kryptonite to Jamaicans. You just spending, you know, the five days in Nigeria and the two days in Ghana, you could just see the temperament. Oh okay. And you think, you interpret commit commitment to it. . Theyre at different levels, different level. So, we are much more Wiziwig. I read the comments made by anonymous about the bullying and rudeness and I cant help but wonder if that person didnt fully grasp cultural differences. So if you are going to be lying down on a beach in a swimsuit, you will find people coming home from a funeral, staring at you, kind of thinking, what are you doing? So they dont tend to display their body, to design clothing, to display their body like that. I would say the total Ghanaian experience is to climb the stairs above a market area and just watch how people move. I mean, it was just amazing. Joining Lines & Line Cutters Beg yuh a bli nuh, mi cyan stan up lang caw mi hab gas inna mi foot Listen, how I see is it that Jamaica has its own culture just as any culture mixed from its traditions environment and a fingerprint of factors. Xavier: Well, thank you and blessings to you and your family and to all the Jamaicans there in Ghana. I lived in South Africa, spent a long time in Brazil and the US, but I think it just feels very familiar. Peace out. , Alexis Chateau (@alexischateau_) March 7, 2020, Moved from Jamaica to NYC so ppl would say I'm mean I can be very mean but that also depends on you, so just move outta my way n don't come to me with nonsense, VanillaBeans (@TiinaBeans) March 8, 2020. I wouldnt say that, its not that I dont like it, but its harder to get used to. Okay. Xavier: So my first question is, which paat a Jamaica yuh cum fram? Nothing compares with the Chieftaincy System, but its still very important here. Nairaland - Copyright 2005 - 2023 Oluwaseun Osewa. Pride primarily plays out in CLASS structure in Jamaica. Maybe thats the Jamaicans you attracted and the circles you moved in. Ruth: You just to absorb it. Who said Ghanaians hate us? Dem too soft and hypocritical. We're honest. And they know that you dont eat the red bits and the black bit, but they eat it. Bob said "the truth is an offense, but never a sin". Ruth: And you very much see that here. Toruk Makto (@BufbertBeefcake) March 8, 2020. But, its all familiar and its all similar. 1. At the heart of all this is that some cultures and the specific people within them perceive Jamaican cultural cues as too aggressive because of the lenses they look through. WebThere are a few reasons why Nigerians and Jamaicans may not get along. Theyre not used to that here at all. From what I have observed it is a egoistic culture. Remember, the Irish suffer the same fate despite being quite northern themselves. Xavier: So, my next question is this one, what was the biggest adjustment there? You show them their weaknesses. oh u just want attention. Xavier: Its interesting because I was just reading an article, you know, and people are trying to find They know where the ackee come from, but theyre still trying to figure out how did the salt fish get into the ackee. I thought who are the mad people here, the ones who ran for their freedom or the ones who bowed down and remained slaves? You have the chief, you have people who report to the chief, et cetera, and so Ghana tends to be hierarchical across many fronts. You show them your strength in the face of all odds being stacked high against you. But like seriously? You will need a sense of humor. And at some point, we left the US to be in South Africa, and then came back to Ghana. People will hide the truth so as not to upset you. It wasnt even, Bob Marley, yes, but there were others who were also important. Why unnuh cyaah be gentle and sweet like sugar and cream? I leave the Americans to ponder that one. Learn how your comment data is processed. Not sensuous, sensual? And again, we kind of touched on it. Why are they so outspoken and demand the freedom to speak? Mi fraid (I am afraid), but people do and I Yes. So having the whole mixed thing, in fact here, they still call kids who are, lets say theyre half white or half black, they still call you half cast. And the other thing is dasheen. Then we get to the attitude of being tough. Apparently, some Africans perceive Jamaicans as rude and think